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Denmark: Scientific fraud from the Antis again

Hi,

There is junk science from Denmark about 'the number of heart attacks dropped due to the smoking ban'. I have no english language link yet. I provide you with this danish language link:

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2008/12/21/070518.htm

There is more! You will love it Smile

The reason for the drop is very simple. Not even the anti smoking zealots have thought about it. From April 16, 2008 and some time thereafter, there was a national strike among nurses and other hospital health care personnel. 65 % of all nurses and other hospital health care personnel were part of the strike.

So obviously the number of admissions for heart attacks dropped. Any treatment that could be postponed or handled outside of Denmark was not performed. That easily explains the drop of 8 %, that 'public health experts' claim was due to the smoking ban!

I only have a danish language link on the strike. This one is from the nurses trade union:

http://www.dsr.dk/PortalPage.aspx?MenuIt...%3d%3aMjAw

When I have something in english, I will let you know. But now you know the true reason for the drop. And the public will clearly recognise the 'science' as a fraud!

Soren
http://www.dary.dk

22-12-2008 11:13 AM
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So now it is Scotland and Denmark caught with bad figures, they will not learn will they?

I am beginning to wonder if this is more widespread than we think.

24-12-2008 06:35 PM
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RE: Denmark: Scientific fraud from the Antis again

well they are trying to find ideas how to reduce the numbers of "passive smoking death" LOL

Kyprianou had for example
2006: 69.000
2007 (1st half) 70.000
2007 2nd half : 79.000
then shortly : 80.000
and 2008 : 19.000

you see often from the EU 18.000

for ALL Member states...
at the same time, Pötschke-Lange, DKFZ (the German ASH) keeps on insisting on her 3301 for Germany (80 millions ppl)

While Dautzenberg moves between 5000 and 6000 for France : 70 Millions inhabitants LOL LOL ROTFL!

For the raise of the Smoking teenies quotes in Ireland, they first took Teenies 15- 18

then the changed the figures for 15-24 Yrs... to hide their "Child protection" :-)

We had saved it of course :-)

Some still go on using the same copy pastes, some go on demanding their bans, and denounciations, and lawsuits, and criminalization *without any reasons*.

they probably had no time to adapt their figures for everyone in US... or no money because of the catastrophe with chantix... look at this :

and everybody mocks them... if you ask them sccientifical details or explananations: either they don't answer, or "smoking is bad for you" and all the usual shit. If you ask a second time "you did not answermy question: either the cut their mail address, (or flee llike Keyser in Germany) or so they just go on making their fanatic campaigns of discrimination: in USA they have accomplished their Brain washing... but in Europe it does not work that well....

Any way: Helmut Schmied, Her Majesty the Queen Elisabeth, and Einstein are on our side: what do you want more?

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24-12-2008 06:55 PM
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RE: Denmark: Scientific fraud from the Antis again

Now I know! thanks Fanny, regarding America i suspect it is easier over there because unlike europe they have never been invaded successfully. Every country in Europe has been invaded at least once starting with the Roman Empire and ending with world war two, I believe Europeans are more hardened to oppression as many of the invasions were extremely oppressive toward the natives of the countries involved so it is harder to 'brainwash' Europeans (no offense to America meant).

I believe that once TICAP concludes it's first international conference smokers will begin to feel this truly transcends national borders and is a truly international issue and should be fought as such, so much so that I believe the bonds formed will be tighter than any the EU try to forge; and with the Americas onboard we may begin to see support from Africa, Asia and Australasia all of whom share our problems.

25-12-2008 02:30 AM
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